on Tech news today we’ll tell you about a crazy new camera that has 16 lenses plus a new app from a cool game company gamifies stress relief and Adobe photoshops unsightly tourists out of your photos so you don’t have to it’s all coming up next on Tech news today this is Twi bandwidth for Tech news today is provided by cash fly at C fly.com [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] this is Tech news today for Thursday October 8th 2015 this episode is brought to you by Prosper Prosper is a peer-to-peer lending Marketplace that connects people who are looking to borrow money with those who have money to lend visit prosper.com TNT to apply for a loan now and by gazelle the Online Marketplace for buying and selling used gadgets shop from a variety of certified pre-owned Electronics or trade one in for cash give a new life to a used device visit gazelle.com today Tech news today is the show where we talk about the tech news with the journalists who reported my name is Mike Elgen our co-anchor today is Fusion editor cashmir Hill welcome to the show cashmir thanks Mike hope you can hear me I can hear you fine your video looks good um so let’s talk about fubbing for a second this is a word that I learned this week last this week uh when I read the brand new book um reclaiming conversation by Sher turel I think is how you pronounce her name turle I think yeah turl I’ve always said turl I’ve heard other people say turquel uh somebody will correct me in the chat room I’m sure but uh uh in any event fubbing is according to the book now this is what I want to talk to you about is what is the actual definition of fubbing the book said it’s when people look at their phone while they’re talking to you but you linked on Twitter to an article that said that it’s anytime you sort of you’re talking to somebody you turn to your phone you’re fubbing them and it’s apparently a uh a combination of phone snubbing is that correct phone snubbing right this is you know it’s especially coming up in relationships where somebody is looking at their phone when they’re supposed to be you know having dinner with their partner or their spouse uh and they’re more engaged in the smartphone mobile world than they are in the real world yeah I’m sorry are you looking I can’t see you right now but I’m guessing you’re f MIT anyway it’s a great word it’s been around for probably three years I think and I I don’t know why I haven’t heard it before probably because I was paying attention to my phone when somebody was telling me all about it but uh it’s a great word let’s all use it I think it’s a new word I think it just came into existence I did a Google for it and I did not see it before this week all right well let’s all use the word but let’s all not do it you know because it’s like really a bad thing to do uh and you know it it’s actually and this is one more thing about fubbing I’ve noticed that it’s actually considered socially acceptable for um people in their early 20s in a workplace if you if you work with people who are very young right out of school uh you go to meetings and and you’re talking right at them and it’s like on the phone and so it’s a It’s Quickly becoming a an acceptable norm and we must stop it so all right well let’s jump into the news we got a ton of really really interesting news starting with this story a radical new camera called the l16 has 16 lens is with each lens focusing light into its own individual sensor it’s from a startup called light and it ships this year Wall Street Journal personal Tech editor Wilson Rothman is here to tell us what the hell is going on welcome to show Wilson thank you Mike thanks a lot yeah go ahead we need to know this is this is a a crazy crazy device and uh what is going on here so there’s there’s three big problems with our smartphones as much as we like to take pictures with them they’re not good in low light they’re not good at uh at zooming in on things and they are not good at creating that portrait like depth of field effect that we see with our DSLR cameras but of course the big problem with those big dslrs is that you can’t fit them in your pocket so what these guys did was instead of creating a giant lens and a giant sensor and you know put putting it all into a big package they divided that job up into 16 different lenses and sensors and made it a much flatter smaller package I mean it’s still about it’s still a good-sized point and shoot at this point but um but it it it takes amazing pictures uh and and it can V your pocket so they’ve really designed this thing to look like a smartphone um I mean it seems like smartphones have taken a huge bite out of the camera industry because people just don’t buy them anymore do you think it’s likely that this would change the tide well actually think there the endgame here for a company like light is that they’re going to want to sell this uh in ual property I mean who who wants to join the camera industry right now I think these people are inventors and I think that uh you know if I was Samsung or Apple I’d be eyeing this as you know as maybe uh a first step in an evolution towards making a multi uh what is it called multi-aperture camera for um for a phone because the the principle is just you know how do you get something huge and shrink it down by you know crowdsourcing it if you will yeah I mean you know this is grabbing a lot of Light which of course is being converted into data and each of these cameras is generating its own data and it’s put together into a single file how big is that file so it’s a 52 megapixel image wow which the cool thing about that is you take one shot it’s you know it kind of reminds me of some of those like those um what do you call medium frame cameras you know that that professional photographers use because you take one picture uh and then you can crop in to like a a thumbnail size you know part of that picture and you get an extremely like clear nice detailed shot so your zoom lens is kind of built into the image itself you just crop in and there it is uh it’s a little like the old Blade Runner where they could like look into the mirror and zoom in and all that that technolog is actually arriving so what did you guys use um when you were testing it around the Wall Street Journal offices what were you taking photos of well there’s the caveat cashmir it’s it’s actually shipping next summer what they did was they showed us and a few other you know uh news outlets I showed an early prototype and the first images um this thing is such a new invention that it’s only had been shooting actual photos for about six weeks um and yeah there’s they what they brought to us was the device but it was a non-working unit unfortunately so we’re not we’re not reviewing it yet we’re just telling the world’s there okay so that’s a ction on what I said at the beginning which I said it would ship this year it will ship next year just just to be clear they’re saying summer 2016 but you know with anything that’s taking pre-orders a year in advance there that those dates could easily slip okay so what do we know about light as a company who are these guys well the the CTO uh he came from Qualcomm he his so his background is actually in um in chips and in in in this stuff he’s a he’s a camera Enthusiast who decided that there was a problem you could solve with silicon and um it’s important to remember that this this camera is Casmir mentioned smartphones it’s got the guts of a smartphone I mean it has a a Qualcomm Snapdragon chip no uh no coincidence there um and foxcon is an investor foxcon who of course makes iPhones as well so um what you’ve really got is a lot of smartphone DNA going into a product um that will run the Android operating system but when I talked to them they said they’re going to uh they’re going to you know kind of sandbox the system they’re not going to let everyone put any Android app on it but they will let developers who want to invent say a interior design app that you can take a picture of a room and suddenly you have all the measurements of everything in the room uh stuff like that uh they will totally welcome and encourage and have a SDK for so um you know it’s a it’s a lot of different kinds of uh Technologies coming together and and uh you know that’s that’s where these guys come from and uh you mentioned foxcon as an investor if you want to really have an eye- openening experience s Google foxcon for the various companies they’re investing in they’re investing in everything it’s incredible I’ve I’ve seen probably dozens of stories in the last month or two uh where foxcon is throwing millions of dollars at this company acquiring that company buying the rights to that intellectual property they’re up to something I don’t know what they’re doing but it’s going to be huge now uh well it reminds me a little of the odms of the you know the ’90s and 2000s becoming the PC makers you know the dominant PC makers and kind of giving Dell and HP a run for their money it’s sort of like these odms are like why are we why do we need middlemen you know why why aren’t we the companies that people come to so Microsoft saying that too now so so clearly I need this uh how much is this going to cost when this camera comes out next year so it’s uh so it’s $12.99 pre-order up through I think early November uh but if you order it what they say is when it actually does go on sale it’ll be $16.99 so you’re getting a uh you’re getting a $400 you know discount if you will um now again like these these sort of pre-ordered things go A lot of times you don’t ever see that that that full price they usually say they may say something and and the company never told me this but I’m just speculating maybe they they’ll say oh yeah $ 12299 is the price going forward uh who knows maybe it ends up costing more and they have to raise the price I mean these you know when you when something sh a year out I I wonder a lot about how accurate the pricing is um what Drew us to this you know we don’t like to write too much about Kickstarter projects what Drew us to this was the real real invention and the and you know necessity being the mother invention was really one of those moments where we were like yeah this makes sense yeah it really does it’s really interesting idea Wilson Rothman is at wsj.com and on Twitter at WJ Rothman Wilson thanks for joining us today thank you Mike we got some more really cool news new is coming right up but first I want to talk about Prosper Prosper is one of our sponsors today and the best way to get a loan you may want to do something you want to buy the camera we talked about earlier you may want to remodel your bathroom there’s so many ways that you can take advantage of a great loan from Prosper uh that’s up to you it’s up to your imagination and whatever your goals and objectives are in life uh but uh I’m here to tell you that that’s the best way to to borrow money uh and of 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TNT whether you’re looking for a loan or not and check this out this is a really great uh service it’s an iconic Silicon Valley brand they invented the category and you should check it out just to see what’s possible and I think you may be inspired uh by going there Dell and storage and it giant EMC are reportedly in talks about a merger Business Insider reporter Matt Weinberger joins us to talk about it welcome to the show Matt hi thanks for having me thanks for being on now before we get into the news can you outline what EMC does and you know the public knows EMC as a storage company but what else do they do oh man do you have an hour um they do a lot of stuff they at at the highest level they basically make stuff to make data centers run better faster stronger harder um they have they’ve traditionally won with big Enterprises midsize to Big Enterprises selling the huge storage arrays selling the data crunching apparatuses um they’re really expensive like a lot of Legacy it vendors but for a long time they were the only choice how big uh relatively big are these two companies what would a merger look like so the merger would be oh man it’s like you have one giant Lego set over here and one giant Lego set over here and then you try to mash them together into one huge Lego set it would be a proposed merger EMC has a 52 billion doll market cap Dell we don’t know how big Dell is because they went private in 2013 but they’re big um and so a merger between the two would probably take a long time and be incredibly complicated and expensive uh but they’re hoping that they can get something out of it if these if these reports are true um you know these kinds of mergers tend to uh fail I mean you know hp’s acquisition of compact comes to mind yes why do they think this won’t fail I mean sounds to me like a terrible idea on its face but what is their reasoning do you think the reasoning the dell and EMC have both fallen on really hard times like I said uh EMC is very expensive and for a long time there were no reasonable alternatives in the last few years thanks to companies like Amazon with Amazon web services Microsoft with Microsoft Azure um they’re now viable Alternatives which has been really hurting emc’s bottom line uh similarly Dell isn’t selling as many PCs as it used to because we’re all on iPhones these days um so they’re kind of seeing it as kind of a chocolate and peanut butter kind of thing Dell gets more Enterprise data center Services um to help them with their weak spot and EMC would get some breathing room because it’s fallen on some really hard times lately with with Dell’s Diversified business yeah plus now Microsoft is making laptops that doesn’t help Dell’s uh optimism about the future Matt Weinberger Matt Weinberger at businessinsider.com and on Twitter at mwine we n thanks for joining us today Matt ah thanks for having me all right bye- bye Amazon is pretty serious about being the everything store the company is launching today a Marketplace for hand made products called you guessed it handmade and they’re directly competing against Etsy racher Rachel lurman is Tech reporter for the Seattle Times and joins us to talk about it welcome to the show Rachel thanks Mike how are you doing I’m doing great thank you now how many sellers are on the store at launch and what are they selling they have more than 5,000 already which is pretty impressive considering we hadn’t heard very many rumors about this there were some Whispers last spring but they’ve amassed quite a bit of people and they’re selling every there’s a ton of artwork there’s a lot of jewelry there’s also there’s a few kitchen items but mostly what I’m seeing is lots of silver and gold especially rings and some prints you can hang on the walls how does the number of sellers on Amazon’s new Marketplace compare to Etsy is Etsy doomed do you think I think Etsy is gonna have some problems with this but mostly because Amazon has such a loyal following like Amazon can amass as many Sellers as it wants pretty much because these sellers know that Amazon has you know millions of customers every year that come to Amazon for everything they trust them and if Amazon launches something new they kind of uh we as the customer kind of feel well it has the backing of Amazon so if something screws up Amazon will back it Amazon will give me my money back Amazon will blah blah blah so I think I is gonna have some problems just with Amazon’s loyal customer following now one advantage that Amazon has of course is everybody’s credit card that’s for starters another one is that they have Amazon Prime which has great shipping I think people love the fact that they can get something you know the next day it works pretty well it doesn’t work as well as it used to I think at least in my experience are handmade products available for Amazon Prime shipping so some of them are available if the sellers choose to be fulfilled by Amazon they can actually ship their products to an Amazon warehouse and then Amazon will ship them to you right now I think it’s something only like 600 or maybe 700 products are available for Prime but I expect that to go up pretty dramatically because exactly it’s the big thing one of the biggest things that people love about Amazon is you don’t have to wait more than 48 hours to get anything you want Rachel do you know how handmade is going to be integrated in the Amazon site is it going to be distinct is it going to be like one of the marketplaces or will the products be all mixed in with everything else it’s one of the marketplaces you can search it just like you would search anything else uh you can put handmade into the search bar and look specifically at just that store or you can search anything and the results will come up it operates much like any of their other thirdparty marketplaces we should sell the show on handmade because of course this is a handmade show uh put together by by Artisan Craftsman like Jason uh Rachel it’s G to work they’re pretty strict about using no factories or manufactured products yeah that’s true plus uh we’re probably uh overpaid and underworked by Amazon standards Rachel lurman is at Seattle times.com and on Twitter at Rachel lurman thanks for joining us today Rachel thanks so much all right bye bye Sony has acquired a belgium-based company called Soft kinetic systems which makes body sensing and image recognition technology Dean Takahashi is the lead writer for games beat Adventure beat and joins us to tell us all about it welcome to the show Dean hello Mike now can you tell us more about what soft kinetic does yeah soft kinetic uh measures uh through uh light beams uh uh the sort of 3D map of a room and uh figures out everything that’s in it including your body uh so it bounces light off of objects and it measures how long it takes to get back to you and then it uh calculates what’s there and so uh it’s just like Microsoft’s connect um motion sensing camera so what do you think Sony’s plan is for soft kinetic so uh you know I I I think that you know Sony never quite had uh as good technology as Microsoft did with connect so uh this technology will help it get there but uh it’s also looking for um ways to make virtual reality more fun and useful and playable and so right now um you know Sony is doing this project morphious uh Playstation VR technology that they’re going to launch next year and you know it doesn’t work so uh well with just the pl old game controller so I think what they’re going to do is try to integrate soft kinetic into that and and and then allow you to you know control things in virtual reality with your uh body movements and hand movements and um one thing that soft kinetic had which was uh pretty interesting was it could detect your finger movements and so uh if you were you know relatively close a couple feet away or so uh it could detect all 10 of your fingers moving in in whatever Direction you wanted so that’s pretty cool technology that does sound very cool is this mostly an aqua hire or are they going after the technology and or patents uh I think both I mean there Microsoft is armed with a lot of patents because it’s made several Acquisitions in this area but soft kinetic was established back in 2007 so it’s collected its own patents and then on top of that um you know they have about 77 employees now so uh it’s a little more than Aqua hire I think um you know they’re they’re making a relatively sizable acquisition although they didn’t say disclose the uh the purchase price here one thing I’m always really curious about with these kinds of Technologies which can you know detect everything that’s in a room in order to detect somebody’s movement is how they handle the privacy issues in terms of like what they see and what they gather do you know what how soft kinetic has handled that before in terms of like what they store and what they discard of what they see when somebody’s interacting with the system well um I I think you know one thing they’re they’re not doing is they’re not showing exactly a say a camera image of what is in your room right and so they’re not going to know what kind of clock you have on the wall and things like that um and so they’re really after the the movement uh data and so that’s the the kind of data that they’re storing um they may like Microsoft choose to use um face recognition you know to figure out who’s uh standing in front of uh the you know the PlayStation uh for um and so they they do have to handle some privacy issues related to that just as Microsoft did as well and and basically you know they’re going to have to make some promises to customers uh about how they’re going to use this data um you know before they’re going to get consumer adoption I think well it sounds pretty cool and this sounds like a good area for uh Sony to try to compete in the world of uh motion detection of virtual reality uh console gaming and stuff they’re really good at that there’s uh some word on the street today that uh Sony’s going to look next year at possibly getting out of consumer handset market for smartphones uh just a rumor at this point they have not succeeded in that market although they really succeed in providing the cameras to everybody else uh for their high-end smartphones so uh I think Sony’s really going to have to cherry-pick what businesses they’re in and I think this area of you know high-end gaming is a very good one for them Dean Takahashi is at venturebeat.com and you can follow him on Twitter at Dean Talk t AK at the end Dean FYI we’re we’re going to have our games beat uh conf next week and we’re going to look at a lot of the issues related to VR Gaming so that’s uh on Monday and Tuesday great plug great plug I love a great plug thanks Dean thanks for joining us today thank you all right bye bye bye negative NES have been calling for a Facebook dislike button for a year for years and now they’re finally getting one sort of Facebook is testing emojis as replacements for the like button they’re called reactions and there are seven of them Carrie Flynn is a tech reporter for the international business times and joins us with her reaction how you doing Carrie hi good how are you today I’m doing great thank you what are these seven possible reactions yeah I mean like you said what was my reaction I was pretty surprised how fast they executed on it so Mark said at a Q&A Public Town Hall Q&A that they had something like the dislike button in mind um and here we go they’re releasing it starting tomorrow uh so we have like you said seven different emojis that now people can choose from so now you’ll be able to to hover over the like button and be able to select from these seven different options so you great display there you have the love the haha it’s just these cute emoji faces that they think acly express emotions what you’ll notice is that there’s no dislike there is a sad but there’s not like a I don’t approve of this post that you just put yeah and uh and so you know this is really interesting U because of course if let’s say somebody posts something and says oh so and so died what a great person and you want to re respond to that a like button is not very nice it’s not very good it’s not what you want to do and so in this case you can do the sad uh face so no poop emoji I mean come on that’s the one if I want to talk about Facebook itself I’m going to need that poop Emoji Emoji I mean what’s interesting here and why they’ve been so careful on this idea is not wanting to offend users and back in December um Mark talked about you know you can always comment that was his excuse there um but obviously comments take more time uh vindo at the New York Times pointed out today the fact that now Facebook’s really pushing more mobile it’s you know that also makes it emojis have really taken off because they’re really this mobile experience um so it’s that’s an interesting push I think what’s also interesting here is the business implications so we really rely nowadays you’ll see that I’m going to see something on my Newsfeed because it says that my friend liked it so now if there’s less liking and there’s more these different reactions is Facebook going to show me hey your friend was sad in response to this post and you should see it and be sad too um I think that’s definitely going to change how it looks to the user um then there’s a big implication for Brands as well since Facebook did say that it is applicable to their posts um so how in terms of how they’re going to engage that reaction it’s good they can see sentiment but how does that mean they can no longer say oh we got x amount of likes on this post um and that helps them bump up in the algorithm as well so the implications there will be interesting to see going forward yeah Carrie how is this gonna uh teach Facebook more about us I mean before they would see if we like something or if we saw something and didn’t react but now having this whole range of emotional reactions uh is Facebook just going to know us so much better yeah no that’s a great question I they I was just reading Mark um just posted video and expressed that he’s really interested in this early test of the feature uh I didn’t know before this is only available in I think it’s Spain and Ireland to start so they’re being really cautious about it actually could be just a test and we actually might not have access to the Future they tested a sympathize button years ago too and that actually never got fully rolled out um so maybe like you’re saying maybe this won’t do well maybe they’ll realize that they aren’t interested in gaining all these like different insights on users um I mean obviously they could always use comments and other companies really profit off of being having you know sentiment scores where they analyze the text and are able to say hey this tweet hey this Facebook post really generated this negative or this positive reaction um so now that Facebook’s releasing this new system that I guess they could leverage that if they so choose going forward back to the signals it seems like H they really need to know more about what is really happening I mean they have a a feature called on this day for example which shows shows you the past that people have been complaining and uh as these things roll on it’s like oh here’s your birthday here’s your trip to alapo here’s when you were diagnosed with leukemia and you know what you know stuff like really negative things that people kind of go oh I didn’t really want to remember that I really didn’t want that you know see that again and so now with this they can look at the reactions that you get and know a lot more not only about the reactions but more importantly about the post itself was this a sad post was it a happy post um did everybody like this post did everybody ignore it so I think from a signaling point of view this is really really important but the thumbs up and the like concept is very iconic for Facebook it’s their you know it’s part of their sort of branding and logo is it possible that they’ll retain the like button and the thumbs up icon and just add these to it or are we certain that they’re going to replace that no that is it is true you’ll see the first there are seven options some people today have been saying there are six but you’ll see the first button there is the traditional thumbs up that’s the like button um and the rest are those images so there’s there’s seven in total with the like button remaining and then six additional um so yeah and obviously they put the like button first for a reason what you’re going to see on your smartphone uh when you open the Facebook app is the traditional like button and you have to click on it and hover over it to have access to the other options so that’s kind of like another secret feature like not everyone May notice that at first um so depending obviously just CL tapping like people are kind of lazy tapping like and just choosing that option first I think will still be the most important and the most gained in terms of attention it absolutely will and of course you can uh you can click like at car’s article on international business times you can find her at IB times.com you can follow Carrie at Carm Flynn on Twitter Carrie thank you so much for joining us today appreciate it Mike have a good day you too in courtroom drama news we told you in February that Uber had been hacked and that up to $50,000 of its drivers names and license numbers had been downloaded Uber filed a lawsuit to identify the perpetrator and a reuter’s exclusive claims two sources that say that the hacker used a digital security key accidentally posted by Uber but downloaded via an IP address assigned to current Lyft CTO Chris Lambert note that the lawsuit does not directly accuse Lambert or Lyft of being involved in the hack what do you make of this Kashmir Hill this is a this is kind of weird wow that would be super corporate drama if that were true yeah um it’s I mean we just learned with the hack of Ashley Madison that the CTO of that company had actually discovered a vulnerability in a competitor and downloaded a bunch of information so this stuff does happen it absolutely does and uh and of course U you know this sort of thing is uh the devils in the details now some a few more details in this case what happened was that they they didn’t actually post uh this uh this key information it was just they made it passively available and then there was a bunch of people who accessed it and apparently they went through each and every person and said well it couldn’t have been them couldn’t have been them could have been this guy so uh we’re going to hear a lot more about this in the case if this in fact goes forward so it’s a just very strange news in the world of uh Tech you know corporate Espionage potentially but one thing to keep in mind is that computer forensic work is so complicated and you know uh connecting IP addresses to people can be hard and then as you say you know may have looked at it but then may not have actually done anything with it yeah absolutely well news you can lose now that Google is alphabet and makes sense that alphabet buys the alphabet domain sadly alphabet.com is already taken by BMW so Google has acquired another alphabet domain namely the alphabet followed byc as in ABCDE EF g h j k element P QR c u v wxyz.com it’s a ridiculous name and uh Kashmir do you think they’re actually going to use this as the corporate uh domain I doubt it but it’s good to have it locked down so that someone else doesn’t use it who else would use it well very strange who else well Adobe is working on a camera phone feature called Monument mode which erases tourists from your photos once in Monument mode you take several pictures and whatever is moving in the shot is erased and whatever stands still is retained in this video which was shot at adobe’s Max conference last night an adobe engineer list the help of host Kim Chambers and Parks and Rec star Nick Offerman let’s check this out we see a new live camera preview you can also see the original camera feed in the corner of the screen I’m gonna need a sandwich at some point they’ve got a camera on a tripod and Nick Offerman and the host are walking around uh just making random movements and what you see is you see the photo as it’s being constructed and you see little shadowy parts of blurry PE people going by and it keeps taking pictures until all the people are gone and you’re left with just a clear shot now clearly this may require either an extremely Steady Hand or a tripod there are software that will do this after the fact where it will take multiple pictures and combine them to erase it in fact I think there was an app called tourist eraser uh and of course this should work with cars and stuff like that but what’s interesting about this is that it does it in real time and cashmir Hill adobe’s pretty good at actually shipping features that they demonstrate on stage so I think that this it’s likely this this will appear uh for General use maybe next year but Mike how do you take a selfie with it you can take a selfie and erase yourself I guess uh I don’t know it’s uh I don’t know if you can tell if you’re a tourist but uh yeah no this is you know actually one way to to one thing you can do with this actually I’m pretty sure this would work if you’re in a busy crowded area with tons of people walking around you could actually go and stand there and hold very still like those oldtime photos from the 1850s and just like stand there for a minute as everybody else moves and you it will look like you’re on an empty Street theoretically um oh I love that you’d be you’d become part of the monument exactly that’s right stand there like a statue well we got some more news coming right up after this word from gazelle gazelle of course is the place to buy and sell uh used phones and and tablets and so on you want to use gazelle simply because it’s it makes Financial sense you you can sell your device to them and then use that money to buy a new device from them and of course the device you buy from them will be at a lower cost than uh buying a brand new device it’ll work if you get the the kind a phone they have two categories uh one of them is just like a brand new phone and uh it’s indistinguishable there’s no way you could tell that this was not a brand new phone and in for an even better price you can uh choose the other category and you can uh you know there’ll be little gentle signs of wear but of course everything will work flawlessly because they put it through a rigorous uh inspection to make sure that battery and everything functions perfectly and of course there’s no risk at all if you’re concerned about buying a pre-owned phone it’s backed by a 30-day ret return policy so you can use it for a month and after a month if you decide that it’s not what you want you send it back and they give you all your money back literally no risk at all so give life to new used to to used electronics give life to to used electronics trade in for cash or buy certified pre-owned devices visit gazelle.com today a new app called pause is designed to reduce stress and depression it’s from us two the same company that makes the game Monument Valley call it the gamification of living in the moment or maybe a lava lamp for your mind to use the app you simply move a blob around on screen as smaller blobs are sucked into it and make your blob grow and if you move too quickly the whole thing evaporates but if you keep at it you’re awarded with sounds and animations and are guided into a meditation with your phone you can choose from one of several levels of difficulty with moving the slowest being the most difficult here comes a relaxing video well-being and meditational practices into F and simple user experience throughout the process we continuously tested PA by scanning brain activity and it shows that pause calms the active mind and lowers the mental workload pause invites you to put attention onto something actually happening in the here now so there it is I actually downloaded this I even paid for it gently and tried it this morning and it actually works it actually like puts you in the in in the in the moment now keep this is the guy that um is the creator of the technology resp your body and he says it’s based on taii taii of course is a DST uh meditation martial art thing um but it’s also based on con I don’t think he mentioned this in the video but it’s based on DST meditation principles with DST meditation one of the differences is you focus on something external to yourself so a glass of water or something like that and in this case you’re focusing on your phone so it’s a very strange concept cep and again it seems to actually relax you so if you’re like too stressed out two bucks might uh might put you in the zone there’s so many um new basically mindfulness Technologies out there now there’s that very popular headspace app um one of my reporters wore this mindfulness tracker on her bra that would tell her when she was getting stressed out and when she needed to you know focus and and be Zen it’s so interesting to me that you know it’s basically technology that has made us so stressed and now we need more technology on top of it to chill us back out yeah it’s and and of course the people who really love this are the people who sell technology uh they love the fact that technology is the solution and in fact let’s face it technology usually is the solution to all our problems well our TNT fan of the day is Joshua Chu in Tech in in New York who posted this picture on Google+ Joshua says he watches TNT during midnight feedings of his newborn baby girl and that although baby is cute he gets very little Tech news from watching her there she is she is just really cute but so she’ll take care one on the left is definitely cuter Mike yeah I know I can’t compete with that what can I do but I have Tech news show us how you watch or listen to TNT just record a video or take a picture of yourself or your setup and post it on Instagram Google+ Twitter or Facebook and use the hashtag how I watch TNT so we can find it cashmir Hill do you recommend using ways while driving around in Brazil what do you think so there was this interesting story this week about I mean tragic story about a couple that was trying to get to the beach in Rio de Janeiro and instead of putting the street saying Street in the um or they wrote Street in the ways address instead of Avenue and ended up in this slum where the car was shot at and the woman died uh and all these all these news reports are kind of like blaming ways for the death and I think it’s much more complicated than that uh and it’s also just this like blind trust in technology where you think your directions app is going to tell you where to go and so you don’t look around and see that maybe you’re entering a dangerous neighborhood okay so that’s really interesting because I saw the headlines but I didn’t read this story I I actually didn’t know about this story because I assumed that it was just another one of those stories where people blindly you know there there have been cases when people have driven off of peers into the ocean or off cliffs or whatever and it’s a case where they’re so focused on the app that they’re not really paying attention and using their their but this is a different case this is somebody who who uh entered in the address they made one minor easy to make error and ended up in a bad neighborhood so it wasn’t really their fault uh really I mean it’s it was a simple mistake that uh shouldn’t be fatal uh and you know who’s to blame of course you know violence and brazils to blame lots of things to to blame I remember when Map Quest was the main way that people used mapping uh on a computer and you basically in those days it was before everybody had smartphones and you basically go to map quest put in the address and then you printed it out and carry the print out it sounds incredibly primitive uh by what you know by today’s standards but what was stupid about Map Quest was that it oftentimes didn’t know the address but it didn’t tell you it didn’t know it just sent you to the middle of the city so if you put in an address with a zip code it would just find the GE geographical center of that zip code and and you would just get the directions to go to that place and it could have it was just a random Place basically and so this sounds like something similar to that I guess what’s really the question I yeah the question I think it raises that you know ways warns you about police so that you don’t get ticketed so that you slow down so a lot of people are asking like well why doesn’t ways warn you when you’re entering a dangerous neighborhood um that of course has been a controversial feature that um apps have offered in the past because they’re often seen as racist but you know if ways was basically download in uh crime data and it just said hey just like watch out you’re in a dangerous part of town it does seem like that could be a good feature to add to the app yeah it’s absolutely true um and um you know part of the problem is that uh ways doesn’t really work like that maybe it should uh it’s a social app so all the data in there is from users and if people never drive into these favellas you know because they’re so dangerous then they’ll they will never have the opportunity to S you know to say oh I saw machine guns and I saw you know drug lords and I saw all this kind of stuff don’t go there because if they never go there they won’t they won’t indicate that but yeah there’s got to be some way to flag uh problematic areas although you know even that could be problematic I mean that could be controversial you could imagine people claiming that a neighborhood uh is uh is a bad neighborhood and the people who live there are saying what do you what you’re flagging our neighborhood you’re you’re making it worse nobody’s you know so it’s a it’s a real problem and um so complicated yeah I mean in this case I think that it’s not really Way’s fault you could wander in a neighborhood like that by through multiple means the problem is that neighborhoods like that exist where simply driving in there is dangerous so cashmere Hill what else you working on these days you always have these interesting projects uh anything uh on the horizon right now I’m interested in online Vigilantes so I’ve got a pie coming on that soon that’s a really interesting you know I I was thinking about that this morning about the new sort of um s sort of social stigmatization that happens on Twitter and elsewhere on social media where um either rightly or wrongly people are just attacked by this digital mob and it’s having multiple effects good and bad it’s having a good effect in the sense that people aren’t getting away with stuff this sort of ostracizing people is kind of creating this Mass I guess for lack of a better term uh shame based morality where people are more careful about uh being jerks uh because they’re afraid of being attacked by this mob but on the other hand there are people who really don’t deserve the level of of malice that’s being thrown at them uh I I heard a case recently where there’s a somebody who’s in a TV series and and and he plays a villain and he gets so much hate on the on on Twitter and other other social media because of the things that his character did that he can’t even go on social media anymore he’s completely given it up and has asked his whole family to not go there because of all the horrible things people are saying about him so it’s it’s really a weird problem that has emerged I think it seems to have emerged in the last two or three years it really has it was interesting to see last week um the rise of I’m sure you talked about on the show but people um which basically wanted to institutionalize this like have reviews of people the way that you have reviews of restaurants on yel yeah it’s called people p p e and people hated it the internet just went after the creators and basically shamed the app which hadn’t yet launched yet like out of existence they took the website down uh the women who had created it uh basically took their Facebook profile to very very private and it seems like it might just completely disappear uh and the power the power of the mob online is just uh really incredible yeah although that app itself was going to you know likely to be used as a tool for um for stigmatizing people and so that that wasn’t good either they or shaming shaming people you would basically all you needed to demonstrate that you knew somebody in the initial version was to know their phone number I believe and uh you know some people have their phone numbers out there that doesn’t mean they should be targeted uh and you know sort of uh shamed you know by haters for whatever reason so uh it’s a weird problem and I really don’t know what the solution is uh for people but it it’s it’s getting pretty ugly out there so anyway I’ll look forward to seeing what you write about all that cashmir Hills at cashill on Twitter uh cashmir thank you so much for coing today see you next week Mike sorry about the internet problem see you next week yeah it’s it’s pandemic around here I don’t know what’s going on today uh take care let us know what’s on your mind s email to TNT twit.tv or you can call us at 260 TNT show that’s 26868 7469 you can subscribe to Tech news today on Spotify and hundreds of other locations just choose your favorite at twit.tv TNT you can watch us live every weekday at 10 a.m. Pacific 1700 UTC at twit.tv slive we also want you to join our Google+ community just search Google+ in the in the community’s area for 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